James Pethokoukis, The American  Enterprise Institute BlogRead more:  
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-the-reagan-recovery-was-much-more-impressive-than-obamas-2012-1#ixzz2jOpJoXeiMy pal Joe Weisenthal over at 
Business Insider just wrote a piece –
 in response to a post I wrote earlier  today — with the delightfully provocative and contrarian headline, “Why The  Obama Recovery Has Been Much More Impressive Than Reagan’s.”
Nope, I’m not making this up. 
See for yourself.
Let’s be perfectly clear, the Reagan Recovery (RR) has been far 
stronger  than the Obama Recovery (OR). I think that is beyond dispute, really.
– In the first ten quarters of the OR, GDP is up a total of 6 percent. During  the first ten quarters of the RR, GDP rose 15 percent.  
Point for  Reagan.
– In the first ten quarters of the OR, the economy created  790,00 jobs. During the first ten quarters of the RR, the economy created 7.5  million jobs  
Point for Reagan, especially given the U.S.  workforce is a third bigger today than it was in the early 1980s.
– In the first ten quarters of the OR, real disposable personal income  rose at an annual average pace of 0.8 percent. During the first ten quarters of  the RR, real disposable personal income rose at annual average pace of 5.4  percent. 
Point for Reagan. Game. Set. Match.
But Brother Weisenthal is making a subtler, more subjective point. He is  arguing that, for a number of reasons, the Obama Recovery is more impressive  than the Reagan Recovery. Not stronger, more impressive because Obama was dealt  a worse hand. Among Weisenthal’s points:
1. 
“There are at least some economists who argue that  post-financial crisis economies experience unusually slow growth for years and  years.”
Me: 
Indeed, there are. But there are also some who disagree.   A Federal Reserve study released last November found the following:
Whether a recession is associated with a banking  or financial crisis does not have a statistically significant effect on the pace  of growth following recession troughs. … Banking and financial crises are  associated with more severe recessions – deeper in the case of emerging market  economies and longer in the case of the advanced economies – but do not appear  to impose additional restraint to recoveries beyond the depth and duration.
2. 
“The problem is that Pethokoukis is … defining housing bust purely in  terms of housing construction, while ignoring the real elephant in the room: The  collapse in home prices, and the knock-on effects it has had on the  economy.”
Me: I don’t disagree that the “knock on effect” such as loss  of wealth may well be a drag on growth. That Fed study makes the same point:   … “recoveries from recessions associated with severe housing downturns are  found to be slower.” Well, there is a difference between slow and virtually  non-existent, right? Again, the Reagan  Recovery 10-quarter growth  rate was 6 percent vs. 4.6 percent for the average post-WWII recovery vs. 2.4  percent for the Obama Recovery. And
And the impact of a deleveraging and a reverse wealth effect are not as clear  as Weisenthal contends. Note that personal consumption as increased for 10  straight quarters and the savings rate remains extraordinarily low. But I think  this chart, from the NY Times, raises big questions about the deleveraging  argument:
Where is the deleveraging? It looks like debt has shifted  from private to public. Let me quote 
a Michael Pento piece from BI, of all  places: “Although it is certainly true that after decades of overly speculative  borrowing, individuals and corporations are paying down debt, rebuilding their  savings, and generally repairing their respective balance sheets. But these  activities cannot be faulted for our economic malaise. In fact, as a  country, we haven’t deleveraged at ALL. All the moves made by the private sector  have been vastly outpaced by the federal government’s efforts to add leverage to  the economy.”
3. 
If you really want an apples-to-apples comparison, it’s hard to  fathom why Reagan doesn’t have to answer for a recession happening so soon on  his watch, and why he only gets measured on those two years. What’s mor …   the 1984-1988 period was pretty average, so we’re really just talking  about two years of really impressive morning-in-America growth.
Me: I think 
Paul Volcker cranking interest rates through the roof might  have had a role in the recession as he attempted to squeeze out the inflation of  the 1970s. The 1981-82 recession was the culmination of really 16 years of  economic mismanagement. One sign of this: The Dow industrials fell by two-thirds  when adjusted for inflation from 1966-1982. (From 1983-1988, the S&P  composite notched a real return of 13 percent a year.) The entire previous  decade marked by tremendous economic volatility, high unemployment,high  inflation. Reagan inherited a mess.
As for GDP growth, it averaged 4.4 percent from 1983-1988 vs. roughly 3.3  percent since WWII. So I am pretty sure growth was markedly above average.   A recent IMF forecast, by the way, predicts sub-3 percent US GDP growth  through 2016.
4. 
“We could of course go on, and point to several other factors in  Obama’s favor, such as the fact that tax rates had already been lowered quite a  bit heading into his presidency, taking away one easy form of stimulus, or the  fact that a major trading partner, Europe, has been in crisis virtually the  whole time of Obama’s Presidency, or the fact that Obama faced a Congress  who threatened to cause the U.S. to default, or the fact that interest rates  were ultra-low already, again taking away one form of stimulus from Obama.”
Me: Gosh, I wonder what U.S. GDP growth would have been in  the 1980s had China been the second largest economy in the world growing at 10  percent a year, boosting global growth. Instead, it was the stagnating Soviet  Union in the number two spot.  In the 1980s, one-third of the planet lived  under communism sapping all that human vitality and creativity (and trade) out  of the world economy. And I am not sure about JW’s point about taxes and  interest rates. Is he saying that Obama has a much more constructive tax and  rate environment and still couldn’t get the economy cooking?
 
Bottom line: People were amazingly pessimistic  heading into the 1980s after the economically tumultuous 1970s. America seemed  to be in decline both economically and militarily. And corporate America was  desperately in need of restructuring. (Thanks, Bain!) Obama inherited a much  healthier non-financial private sector.
This is what the American people had just gone through, by the way (via
 MeasuringWorth):

Imagine going back in time and showing these economic statistics from the  next 25 years:

Growth up, stocks up, inflation down. Oh, and the Soviet Union gone. Safer,  Stronger. Better. Instead of the
 Soylent Green future of diminished  expectations people were predicting in the 1970s, we got something more like the  shiny, growthy one shown in 
Back to the Future II.
Obama has some big shoes to fill.
Read more:  
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-the-reagan-recovery-was-much-more-impressive-than-obamas-2012-1#ixzz2jOp2ldK2